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he also did it in john mccain's 2008 campaign. ahead of next week's debates, both sides have been lowering expectations. >> the president is, obviously, a very eloquent, gifted speaker. he'll do just fine. >> mitt romney has an advantage because he's been through 20 debates in the primaries oefrt the last year. >> barack obama is a very effective debater. >> we know governor romney is practicing for months. i think the invasion of normandy took less preparation than he's putting into the debates. >> i'm joined by the president of progress and former obama white house adviser and also with us is robert trainum. nera, you helped with hillary clinton's debate preps and you worked robert with with rick santorum and president bush. let's get to the heart of it, robert. both sides lowering expectations, but realistically how important is this debate for romney "nightly newmitt romney? >> it's very important. this is his second time to make an impression. the first time was during the republican convention. the second time is in a situat
he also did it in john mccain's 2008 campaign. ahead of next week's debates, both sides have been lowering expectations. >> the president is, obviously, a very eloquent, gifted speaker. he'll do just fine. >> mitt romney has an advantage because he's been through 20 debates in the primaries oefrt the last year. >> barack obama is a very effective debater. >> we know governor romney is practicing for months. i think the invasion of normandy took less preparation than he's...
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in 2008 we were at war, and barack obama and john mccain fought it out every day in that war. this week when the financial crisis was absolutely on fire, at that debate, they were talking about the wars. this year, president obama does bring it up, he does bring it up at most of his stump speeches, how he explains what he has done and planning on doing talking about the two wars. he doesn't have to say much more because he's speaking to an empty room. the romney campaign has no identifiable position on afghanistan. they have been unwilling and unable to hold up that side of debate and so regardless of what it means for the candidates as a country we are deprived of a national discussion about a war we are in. 70,000 american families having skin in the game right now. we have -- that's part of the reason i'm looking forward to the debates. some ways sort of a post-policy campaign. and you can't do that in a debate, at least unless the debate is really bad. >> this is -- this is billed as a domestic policy debate, but -- and there are so many ways this is also domestic policy,
in 2008 we were at war, and barack obama and john mccain fought it out every day in that war. this week when the financial crisis was absolutely on fire, at that debate, they were talking about the wars. this year, president obama does bring it up, he does bring it up at most of his stump speeches, how he explains what he has done and planning on doing talking about the two wars. he doesn't have to say much more because he's speaking to an empty room. the romney campaign has no identifiable...
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toward the enof the mccain campaign they were preparing internal memos of how to exonerate themselves of blame. you'll start to see that coming. when that kind of thing comes, republican money people start to smell it and look for other places to put their resources. >> melissa, is there extra credit for losing creatively? you're a teacher and educator. >> i mean there actually is extra credit for losing creatively if you are a current office holder. if you are a senator or governor and going to go back to that job then, in fact, there are ways if you lose you can lose and still retain your position, for example, as mccain does as a particular kind of voice within the context of the senate. but when you are as romney said many, many times in the primary, an unemployed guy, then what happens is you simply become sort of a speed bump in history. >> now, jeff, you followed a lot of campaigns. i'm sure you remember when people thought senator obama was losing. are people counting romney out too early and does that help him in any way? >> they're not counting him out of the obama campaign.
toward the enof the mccain campaign they were preparing internal memos of how to exonerate themselves of blame. you'll start to see that coming. when that kind of thing comes, republican money people start to smell it and look for other places to put their resources. >> melissa, is there extra credit for losing creatively? you're a teacher and educator. >> i mean there actually is extra credit for losing creatively if you are a current office holder. if you are a senator or governor...
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>> do you know that mccain beat obama on election day, and obama got it in early voting. >> things can change overnight with a great debate performance, but again, mark hallprin, time is running out. >> he's still behind in too many places to win. he doesn't have as of today an obvious electoral college path, and he's not going to make it up on the ground with enthusiasm anymore. >> let's bring it kristen welker at the white house for you. by the end of the mow, 30 states are casting early absentee ballots, that includes five battleground states. is the president's team confident they can keep governor romney from closing the gaps as we see in the polls as of today? >> good morning, alex. i think the obama team is confident but they're cautious. they're six weeks until election day. that's a lifetime when it comes to politics. folks have already started to turn out for early voting. we have a graphic of what we've seen so far. it shows that obama campaign supporters are actually leading right now in terms of voter turnout as compared to romney supporters. i've spoken with officials wit
>> do you know that mccain beat obama on election day, and obama got it in early voting. >> things can change overnight with a great debate performance, but again, mark hallprin, time is running out. >> he's still behind in too many places to win. he doesn't have as of today an obvious electoral college path, and he's not going to make it up on the ground with enthusiasm anymore. >> let's bring it kristen welker at the white house for you. by the end of the mow, 30...
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>> i'm pretty sure that mccain won it -- >> bill: mccain won white males by 16. >> now it's 26. i think it's remarkable that the difference between white males and the rest of the demographics. and i think though the romney has started to lose some of the advantage among men. white males maybe not but overall, men. he had a big advantage and now that is roughly even -- romney may have a little bit of an edge. i do find that fascinating. i don't have an answer to it. >> bill: i don't know whether it is -- i don't think it's -- i think for some, it is racism. i don't think it is all racism. it may be fear of -- i don't know what. ignorance. i don't know. i really cannot put my finger on that. >> one of the things that you've seen both candidates try to do is obviously generalization here but men love sports and both candidates have been talking about sports. obama is a huge sports fan. >> bill: biggest sports fan i think we've ever had in the white house which is saying something because george bush was, too. >> clinton too. obama watches it almost -- espn nightly. >> bill: and by
>> i'm pretty sure that mccain won it -- >> bill: mccain won white males by 16. >> now it's 26. i think it's remarkable that the difference between white males and the rest of the demographics. and i think though the romney has started to lose some of the advantage among men. white males maybe not but overall, men. he had a big advantage and now that is roughly even -- romney may have a little bit of an edge. i do find that fascinating. i don't have an answer to it. >>...
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four years ago barack obama faced john mccain on the debate stage, according to gallup voters judged him the winner by double digit margins and on one won it by an astounding 33 point margin. >> he's done this a lot, good at it and will be the winner. do you think it's as simple if you win the debate, you can win the election here? >> i think it's a lot more than that. people are going to -- people are looking for somebody to be president and a good president, looking for somebody that understands the concerns of the middle class, looking for somebody who has a plan to build an economy for the middle class. in the end, that's what this will come down to. the debates are an important moment but a lot more than who wins one debate or another debate. >> what do you think obama's biggest challenge will be? what are his advisors telling him? getting him to speak off-the-cuff? is that his biggest challenge? >> look, i think you never know what questions are going to be asked, certainly the president has not asked for, you know, my advice or what i expect he will. he has a very good message
four years ago barack obama faced john mccain on the debate stage, according to gallup voters judged him the winner by double digit margins and on one won it by an astounding 33 point margin. >> he's done this a lot, good at it and will be the winner. do you think it's as simple if you win the debate, you can win the election here? >> i think it's a lot more than that. people are going to -- people are looking for somebody to be president and a good president, looking for somebody...
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we're not talking about mitt romney or john mccain just saying i have a problem with this. we're talking about lawmakers on both sides of the aisle including senate foreign relations chairman john kerry. he is circulating a letter demanding answers about libya, egypt and yemen and all the other uprising and what we did and didn't know. >> gretchen: because sources are telling fox news 24 hours after the attack they knew it was a terrorist attack. they mobilized and labeled eight terrorist attack because you mobilize several specific movements that are authorized under a particular resolution when you call it terrorism. they have continually said it's under investigation. the same sources say the f.b.i. is not even on the ground in libya. how can it be under investigation? how can it not be a terrorist attack after 24 hours they my it was terrorist attack. >>> do you remember when the interim president said a terrorist attack and it was administration officials saying no, it was about the movie and spontaneous reaction to the movie. now, we know there are no f.b.i. agents on
we're not talking about mitt romney or john mccain just saying i have a problem with this. we're talking about lawmakers on both sides of the aisle including senate foreign relations chairman john kerry. he is circulating a letter demanding answers about libya, egypt and yemen and all the other uprising and what we did and didn't know. >> gretchen: because sources are telling fox news 24 hours after the attack they knew it was a terrorist attack. they mobilized and labeled eight terrorist...
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he defeated john mccain. he has opened a lead on mitt romney. i mean, you know, i think it's fantasy to say this is all like the -- you could argue he's had luck but in fact he is good at this. he is good at this. you know, he's got a trial. he's got a track record here. >> all right. >> as i said to david axelrod, mika, the dnc, you people may not know how to run this country but you can put on a campaign. >> yes, yes. david gregory, who do you have on "meet the press thoi sunday? >> we'll talk to chris christie on the program to get his handicapping of the race and the debates ahead. >> that'll be good. chuck todd, see you on "the daily rundown" right after "morning joe." eugene robinson thank you as well. new column in today's "the washington post." joe, bless your heart. in the south, you know what that means? >> go to hell. you're in trouble. >> exactly. >> coming up u.s. senator claire mccaskill of missouri joins the conversation. this happy couple used capital one venture miles for their "destination wedding." double miles you can "actual
he defeated john mccain. he has opened a lead on mitt romney. i mean, you know, i think it's fantasy to say this is all like the -- you could argue he's had luck but in fact he is good at this. he is good at this. you know, he's got a trial. he's got a track record here. >> all right. >> as i said to david axelrod, mika, the dnc, you people may not know how to run this country but you can put on a campaign. >> yes, yes. david gregory, who do you have on "meet the press...
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. >> he played obama for john mccain four years ago. >> he did. i spent more time with rob portman as obama than as rob po portman, the senator we all know. both men have a monumental undertaking for the first debate. one of them has to come off as nicer and less arrogant than he really is. and the other one has to come across as more normal and less awkward than he is. >> you talk about president obama coming off as more nicer and less arrogant. he does get irritable in the debates. his team is prepping him for to stay more patient. >> right. think about that for a second. they're asking both men to be someone they're not. that's what makes the debate so dramatic. really, what we're all waiting for, what we're watching for, is the moment when the real man breaks out. >> but more pressure on mitt romney in this debate. if you could say, what is his number one goal for this debate, it is? >> romney needs to have a moment like what some of us saw this week, when bill clinton introduced him, where he had this self-deprecating, normal moment, where hi
. >> he played obama for john mccain four years ago. >> he did. i spent more time with rob portman as obama than as rob po portman, the senator we all know. both men have a monumental undertaking for the first debate. one of them has to come off as nicer and less arrogant than he really is. and the other one has to come across as more normal and less awkward than he is. >> you talk about president obama coming off as more nicer and less arrogant. he does get irritable in the...